Hybrid Time

[Yukon Stihl]

Oh, and dinner going in too.

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i hope the red spice is cayenne pepper

 

[Dub11]

I'm 6'1", and back when a friend of mine wanted me to go out with this girl who was 6'3". I balked, looking back at it I was a jerk, she was pretty and nice, my loss!

Didn't want to go up on her eh?

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Picked this up “just in case”. Not quite as long, but might Stihl dew the job???

 

[BangBang77]

So I have a question - maybe a stupid one.

What is gained by going with an 044/046 or 440/460 hybrid over just a 046 or 460 or 461? I am genuinely curious.

 

[tree monkey]

weight, helps lighten the pocket book

 

[RI Chevy]

Dramatic weight savings with a higher revving power band.

 

[BangBang77]

weight, helps lighten the pocket book

Roger that. I wouldn't have thought there was enough weight difference between bottom ends between the two. Learn something new every day, I guess. Thanks!

 

[tree monkey]

around 2 lbs I think

 

[MustangMike]

More like .75 lb, but if you limb with it, you will notice the difference.

The 460 has a larger case and heavier crank, so it is easier to get more torque out of a ported 460, but the recent hybrids seem to run very strong.

 

[BangBang77]

around 2 lbs I think

Outstanding! I may to jump on the next one I come across.

 

[drf256]

So I have a question - maybe a stupid one.

What is gained by going with an 044/046 or 440/460 hybrid over just a 046 or 460 or 461? I am genuinely curious.

I’ve told a few that they made an updated 1128 case with a stronger crank and more metal, also more Case capacity. They even added a poly flywheel to save some weight.

They called it an “046”

Definitely add another $200 to a standard port job. A lot more work in Jug fitment, muff spacing, fitting covers, etc... plus parts.

Pretty much coolness factor and extra zip from lighter rotating assembly and tighter case compression.

Nothing wrong with an 046, they didn’t make it for no reason. It’s really not that much bigger and heavier empty, but case and tank hold more fluids. I’m not sure on the exact figure.

 

[drf256]

Are those plastic cages on the pto side? Just curious. Nice build Doc!

Yes. All oem Stihl PTO Bearings have been, at least for me. Seem to hold up fine.

 

[drf256]

I’m curious of your order of assembly. Why do you install the muffler before completing a vac/press test?

I usually Vac test all. It’s a bit of a waste of time in this one as it’s all new OEM, the seals were installed correctly with factory tools, and even the case halves has Dirko applied before the oem gasket was placed there.

Plus, 044 design can leak at the crank spacer and make one chase their tail.

Not saying it’s optimal not to test, but I did all the building and all the work. I think I’ll be ok. If it acts like a leak, it will take me 15 min to check it out.

 

[drf256]

I presume 101 is the Ex, care to share the rest of your #s?

101-102 Ex
Mains and fingers at 122
Intake at 75-79 - I don’t go with a huge intake port, not a square one. I’ve got my reasons.

 

[Deets066]

I usually Vac test all. It’s a bit of a waste of time in this one as it’s all new OEM, the seals were installed correctly with factory tools, and even the case halves has Dirko applied before the oem gasket was placed there.

Plus, 044 design can leak at the crank spacer and make one chase their tail.

Not saying it’s optimal not to test, but I did all the building and all the work. I think I’ll be ok. If it acts like a leak, it will take me 15 min to check it out.

I wouldn’t test it either, I only vac test saws if I have an issue

 

[drf256]

Looks new

Tank is AM. I’ve located the correct decals. I know that sounds dumb, but I enjoy the factory look and it wasn’t much more expense or time. That is, until it starts to leak.

This particular build is for a guy who tend to be a collector. The point was to make him a saw he could actually use at a lower cost point than an all oem one. The powder shouldn’t rub off and the other parts won’t break the bank to replace. The plastics are all AM, but the guts all oem, even the trigger in the tank. They have been modded and decaled to look oem.

 

[drf256]

All below are AM.

 

[drf256]

I wouldn’t test it either, I only vac test saws if I have an issue

I vac test every saw I port if it’s all used, cause it’s a cat in the bag and it’s well worth the time investment.

Guys tend to send saws and overlook any problems. Some honestly think that the redo of the cylinder will fix the running issues-this is rarely the case.

I’ve yet to have an all new build leak. I only go oem on the case parts and bearings as the cost is nearly all labor. One looks at saving a whopping $30 using AM parts there. Would you build a house on a straw foundation?

 

[hseII]

I vac test every saw I port if it’s all used, cause it’s a cat in the bag and it’s well worth the time investment.

Guys tend to send saws and overlook any problems. Some honestly think that the redo of the cylinder will fix the running issues-this is rarely the case.

I’ve yet to have an all new build leak. I only go oem on the case parts and bearings as the cost is nearly all labor. One looks at saving a whopping $30 using AM parts there. Would you build a house on a straw foundation?

Last Name Pig, 1st name “the fist little.”


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[drf256]

Here’s where the build is right now.

Going through parts, getting them all clean and sorted. Some won’t do and will be replaced.
Hopefully get some time in Tomorrow night.