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Aluminum Shavings in New Crankcase ms660

Discussion in 'Sub-forum for these Rice Burner 660 builds' started by Clackb@, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Clackb@

    Clackb@ Fishguy

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    Hi guys,
    I've been lurking for a while and absorbing as much knowledge as I can. Thanks for all the great info.
    I just recieved an ms660 kit and upon inspection I noticed a ton on aluminum shavings in the crankcase halves from when they tapped the bolt holes and it sticks in the nooks and crannies due to the oil coating from the manufacturer. I also found that some had gotten into the crankcase bearings and in between the bearings and seals. I would point out that this could easily be the cause of some of the lower end bearing problems I've read about.

    So a heads up to flush the bearings and crankcase really well before installing.

    My question is...
    What do you guys recommend rinsing the crankcase and bearings with? If I can save the seals that would be great, but I realize the only way to be 100pct sure there isn't a chip lurking between the seals and bearings would be to pull and replace the seals.

    Appreciate any advice.
     
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    Termitebuffet Home of the corn can muffler .....

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    Flush with straight gas , or mix ...

    Sawhawgz, ruining the internet since 2012...
     
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    Wonkydonkey Super OPE Member

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    I would ditch the seals, and get some new ones, then You could flush with any light oil, kerosene, diesel as it can be used inside without fear of a spark etc. or what ever cheap petroleum based product you have but petrol should not be used in an inclosed space.

    The good thing with a light oil is you can filter out any particals and reuse. Where as petrol with have mostly evaporated

    Well that's how I would do it.
     
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    MustangMike ONE OF THE GREATEST!

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    I've flushed with mix when I can do it outside, and with WD-40 inside. You may be able to leave the bearings installed. Just make sure they look clean and spin smooth.
     
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    Stump Shot Old *pretty boy dipstick of Quality

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    If in doubt, toss 'em out! Easier to put new bearings and seals in now than later.
     
  6. Clackb@

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    Thanks guys. One of the bearings has snagged a few time when spinning it. I blew some compressed air through it and it's spinning smoothly now, but I'm contemplating replacing it anyways since I'll be ordering the Hyway gasket pack from HLS tonight. The bearings are on sale for around $12 for Presidents day, so I figure better safe than sorry, and a bearing disintegrating at 13 - 14,000 rpm would be sorry indeed.
     
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    Flyguy Well-Known OPE Member

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    When I built my MS660 clone, the first thing I did was ditch the factory seals. Then I cleaned out the case, all drilled and tapped holes, dowel pin holes and the bearings with brake cleaner. I then blew everything out with compressed air, and relubed the bearings with 2-stroke oil. Made the bearings turn really smooth. I also loctited the dowel pins in on 1 side of the crankcase to prevent them from vibrating out. Seen a video on youtube showing what happens when a dowel pin walks out, and gets into the clutch. Not a pretty sight.
     
  8. thesawincanada

    thesawincanada For the love of saws

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    I’ve had shavings behind the crank seal in all the farmertec ms660s I’ve built to date.
     
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    MG porting Well-Known OPE Member

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    Toss the seals there just not worth the gamble plus makes it a lot easier getting the crankshaft in with out dealing with the seals in place already. Flush flush flush just like every one else you'll have a good saw to work with. :beer-toast1:
     
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    thesawincanada For the love of saws

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    Flush out the bearings with brake cleans after you remove seals then lightly oil and spin bearings if they hang up or feel notchey then replace that bearing. Install seals after cases are together with crank all ready installed
     
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    It would be nice to have an option to order those things without bearings or seals installed.
     
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