A Barrett brother with a Creamsicle?? The heck you say!

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Picture what the fuel will do as the pump diaphragm moves up and down driven by impulse without those valves in place.

All it will do is pull fuel in from the fuel line and push it right back out into the fuel line. Very little if any at all will be pushed through the metering valve. Just all round dysfunctional pump

 

[huskyboy]

I bet the diaphragm gaskets disintegrated from age/old fuel. Is it a tillotson hu or walbro wt carb?

 

[PA Dan]

Walbro WT22

 

[dustinwilt68]

Put a wt194 on it and never look back

 

[PA Dan]

Put a wt194 on it and never look back

I also told him that![emoji6]

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I bet the diaphragm gaskets disintegrated from age/old fuel. Is it a tillotson hu or walbro wt carb?

They were never there, factory clean cuts where they would be

 

[1990Husky262]

some body just installed the wrong diaphragm. When you buy a rebuild kit there are multiple diaphragms and gaskets and there is


usually one like that with no flaps (dont know why, dont think i have ever come across a carb that uses that one)

If you look at the picture that one is probley used in certain applications along with the black one with no pump membrane but has the flaps)

When You get your new kit pick the one that has both flaps and pump section ( just like the one in the top line, second one in)

 

[Simondo]

Joe.
Same as the post above.....some kits do come with the multiple configuration. I have a load of the sort you put in and have never ! found a carb i needed one for.

 

[RI Chevy]

All a Dat up dere . Lol

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

some body just installed the wrong diaphragm. When you buy a rebuild kit there are multiple diaphragms and gaskets and there is


usually one like that with no flaps (dont know why, dont think i have ever come across a carb that uses that one)

If you look at the picture that one is probley used in certain applications along with the black one with no pump membrane but has the flaps)

When You get your new kit pick the one that has both flaps and pump section ( just like the one in the top line, second one in)

Thank guys.

Yeah I was thinking it might be just as you said, a pump diaphragm with no flappers, and then another layer goes in with them in some applicatitons, but like you I haven't seen one yet

I did not install this kit, the carb is exactly as it was when I pulled the saw out of the junk pile. The correct diaphragm will go in when I receive my kit hopefully in a day or two.

 

[Simondo]

Thank guys.

Yeah I was thinking it might be just as you said, a pump diaphragm with no flappers, and then another layer goes in with them in some applicatitons, but like you I haven't seen one yet

I did not install this kit, the carb is exactly as it was when I pulled the saw out of the junk pile. The correct diaphragm will go in when I receive my kit hopefully in a day or two.

Looking forward to the testing Joe....always liked small saws , the 024-Ms 240 being one of them.
Take a look at the plastics between the 024 and the Ms 240.......
The 024 "seems" a little smaller due to the revised shell to bring it in line with the Ms 260.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I hear ya Simon. Once I get this 024 running all I need is a 421 to make a nice little clutch of small saws.

 

[Simondo]

Couple more.

Look at those open transfers on the old cylinder. Haven't seen open transfers quite like that before.
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As she sits now. Cute lil Creamsicle
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Many thanks to my good friend @PA Dan for the parts! Just a few more to go

Really interested in the cylinder you found on your saw Joe. I have not seen one like that on any 024 av . The cylinders i have seen are the closed duel trans port sort you have as a replacement. Can you date the saw? The 024 has been around since aprox 1982 and early ones had the "small choc brown" air filter (steel mesh). The pic i put up with the Ozaki bar is the earliest one iv had and from memory "seemed" to have very good Torq, so its got me thinking.. I never had that one apart so im wondering if the open port was what it had .

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I can get more pics of it if you like Simon.

PA Dan helped me date the saw, it is a USA made saw and I can't remember exactly what year it turned out to be.

I'm at work right now, I'll get some pics of the old cylinder and post them up later when I get home

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Well that figures... I ordered a kit for this carb the other day, and today that kit is on Deal of the Day for $2.49... Wtf

 

[RI Chevy]

LOL. Sorry Joe. Always the way.

 

[Simondo]

I can get more pics of it if you like Simon.

PA Dan helped me date the saw, it is a USA made saw and I can't remember exactly what year it turned out to be.

I'm at work right now, I'll get some pics of the old cylinder and post them up later when I get home

Thanks Joe...As and when ,no rush .

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Here are some pics of the original cylinder. There is some transfer on it but I believe it's salvageable.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Serial number if it's of interest.

 

[Simondo]

Here are some pics of the original cylinder. There is some transfer on it but I believe it's salvageable.
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What about the sort of piston that was in there Joe ? If it was the same as the new sort then a comparison would be simpler ( depending on your interest level ) if you do clean and try it against the closed port one.