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It’s more of a cost factor. Nothing wrong with 3 ph. But the equipment is much more $$$$$


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I've seen some 600 volt motors in Canada.Every wash I put in up there ordered 600 volt blowers.15 horse blowers fed with number 10s pretty efficient

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208 is the only one with a high leg. Reading phase to ground would read 120 on 2 phases and 208 on the other. You have to be very careful with this setup because of the high leg. I've seen guys wire In a receptacle and land the braker on the high leg. This will smoke any appliances you plug into it very quickly. Most three phase motors can be wired low voltage (208/240) or high voltage (480). I'm not sure about regulations on tapping out of 3 phase power for your home but balancing the load would be very difficult without using the high leg. @paragonbuilder could probably answer more questions.

3 phase 4 wire uses 3 of the same transformer on pole one meter

3 phase with a wild leg uses 2 120 transformer and 1 120/240 for lighting 1 meter

3 phase 480 volt 4 wires uses 3 same transformers but u have to have cts and pts so the meter can measure it




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3 phase 4 wire uses 3 of the same transformer on pole one meter

3 phase with a wild leg uses 2 120 transformer and 1 120/240 for lighting 1 meter

3 phase 480 volt 4 wires uses 3 same transformers but u have to have cts and pts so the meter can measure it




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I do metering for a power company

You have to ask the power company whats available or you have to pay to get the 3 phase set installed entrance meter base is sometimes supplied by company and breaker panel by you


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I do metering for a power company

You have to ask the power company whats available or you have to pay to get the 3 phase set installed entrance meter base is sometimes supplied by company and breaker panel by you


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Yes.
Every locale is different. If it’s not already available, chances are it’s big money to get it there....
Then there is the equipment....


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3 phase 4 wire uses 3 of the same transformer on pole one meter

3 phase with a wild leg uses 2 120 transformer and 1 120/240 for lighting 1 meter

3 phase 480 volt 4 wires uses 3 same transformers but u have to have cts and pts so the meter can measure it




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I'm not talking pole power. We have 13800 coming from the poles stepped down to 2400 switchgears that gets stepped down from there. No pole transformer is gonna handle the kva we use.
 

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I'm not talking pole power. We have 13800 coming from the poles stepped down to 2400 switchgears that gets stepped down from there. No pole transformer is gonna handle the kva we use.

Either way the end result is the same. It depends on the final transformer configuration as to what you have for power. The higher the voltage coming in, the easier it is to supply it. But it gets more dangerous as well...


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I'm not talking pole power. We have 13800 coming from the poles stepped down to 2400 switchgears that gets stepped down from there. No pole transformer is gonna handle the kva we use.

Are you working on the high voltages Dave?


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I'm not talking pole power. We have 13800 coming from the poles stepped down to 2400 switchgears that gets stepped down from there. No pole transformer is gonna handle the kva we use.

U still hav to meter it and go to your swith gear all depends on voltage and load


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U still hav to meter it and go to your swith gear all depends on voltage and load


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I understand that but we don't step down with three different transformers.
 

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Are you working on the high voltages Dave?


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I did almost everyday my first year at the chemical plant I was at. Alot of large motors there that run of 2400v. Here unless we are working on switchgear then it's usually 480v and lower.
 

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I did almost everyday my first year at the chemical plant I was at. Alot of large motors there that run of 2400v. Here unless we are working on switchgear then it's usually 480v and lower.

Very cool!
I’ve not worked on anything beyond 480.


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Very cool!
I’ve not worked on anything beyond 480.


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It was cool at first but working with "Big Red" armored cable day in and day out gets old lol. Here we have a good mixture of power distribution and control work.
 

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Just have to find out how the power is going to handle demand readings in home some charge some dont
When they ask what it is for they want all kinds of documentation why u need 3 phase in a home
 

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It was cool at first but working with "Big Red" armored cable day in and day out gets old lol. Here we have a good mixture of power distribution and control work.

Control work is what I love!


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2 monthes ago we changed 2 138000 volt cts on a customer service i hate being near the meter when on your hair stands up on your neck and arms and where are 25 ft away
 
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