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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    They are NOT leaking at the existing o-ring on the older black style solenoids.. The problem seems to be that on the older solenoids (5110) they do not have an o-ring groove out at the very nose which is where they leak. They have that little thin hard plastic rib that squishes into the bore...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    Due to the way that little thin rib out on the nose of the old black solenoids gets squashed over in the tapered hole it fits down into when installed the first time I believe the older solenoids are meant to be a one time use. I did confirm that by using a real good quality stay soft thin...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    Well one good (?) thing about this fiasco is I can now swap out the carb in five minutes and that includes starting it! New carb and the original old one (with high quality stay soft gasket sealer applied in a thin strip around the nose of the solenoid) both start right up with one or two...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    It is back! Knock on wood it stays that way too! I made a real small adjustment to the metering valve on the NEW carb taking out all the slack between it and the diaphragm (my dealer suggested this adjustment!), went out and tried the new carb again and now it is running like it did for the...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    I am starting to think the issues with the first gen solenoids are due to them not having two O-rings to seal them in place. The first generation ones have a little thin boss that gets folded over to seal them into the bore they fit in right out near the end of the solenoid. The bore is also...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    Mine is bog monster just trying to get it to come up off idle....although am making some headway now that I see this new carb made it start , idle, and run much easier/better. Still dying quite a bit upon throttle chop, but way better than last week. I pulled the old carb apart again today and...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    I saw some pics a while back on another thread here on this site of a side by side shot of the new vs the old fuel solenoids and just did go back in and look at them again and the newer white ones DO have another o-ring out there in place of that rib! Now if I can just get my hands on one!
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    That makes sense. I imagine the full throttle port is the one with the check valve due mostly to the size and location, but I am trying to locate where the small one with the brass plug feeds into the throat of the carb to be certain it has no obstructions. Usually you can squirt a little WD 40...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    Well I have been working with my dealer and we are making some headway....finally. My issues always start as the temperature starts getting higher above about 85 degrees and especially at higher elevations. Hard to get started, usually 8-10 pulls, dies constantly while waiting for it to...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    Just got back from yet another visit to the dealer and he did confirm that all the m-tronic 241's, 441's, and 661's did come with the same stock black (5110) solenoids. So that makes me think all of them should then be interchangeable on all three of these models. He even has a box of them...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    I wondered after seeing you guys talk about the white and then the green ones if that might be the case. I first bought one (this was before I discovered this site) and they sold me a black replacement. Then after the dealer worked on my saw and replaced that one with another black one, and...
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    Stihl 241c stalls while idling

    Can anyone tell me the differences in the three solenoids? I see where they seem to be interchangeable in the 441's and 661's, but then have been told by my dealer the newer solenoids (5104 & 5111) do not fit the 241 saws ? If ALL three sized saws came stock with the black 5110's in them...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    Oh yeah, I did talk to the dealer and he said none of the newer solenoids will fit this saw. I guess those only fit the 441's and 661's?
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    So the issues continue. Dealer is being REAL good about working with me, even has another dealer from up in Colorado trying to help out as well. They are just as perplexed as I am though. Waiting on both a new carb and a new control unit as not sure which might be the culprit. I am thinking it...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    So I waited till the temperature got up to 95 here today and just came in from trying it out again. Here the elevation is right around 5200 feet. It started up on the second pull but required two more starts to get it to idle for a couple minutes. It ran fine, crisp off idle, did not die...
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    Oh MAN!.....If that were to happen to one of my older saws I think I would just break down and cry right there! But if it happened to this newer one, it might be an improvement!
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    MS661 - info on new Carb, Coil & Solenoid released?

    I am having issues with my 241 and can certainly relate to Blacksmih wanting to pull out the torch and make a nice hot pile of slag! It worked like a champ for two years but early this Spring started getting harder and harder to start, then started dying about 6-8 times each time you did get...
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