MS462 vs MS500i

DND 9000 · Jan 22, 2020

huskyboy said:
With 2 stroke saws the mix needs to travel through bottom end first, unlike a 4 stroke car. So I am guessing direct injection for that would be a injector in the crankcase?

I try to explain it:

On the TS 500i: The injection valve is bolted onto the cranckcase. On the MS 500i it is a little bit different.

On the MS 500i:
First, there is the air filter sitting on the air filter base. After the air filter base comes the throttle shutter. If you push the throttle trigger, the throttle shutter is opened and air (more air) can flow through it. This throttle shutter is based onto the tank housing and after that there comes the air intake manifold. That manifold goes through the air guide shroud on to the injection housing. The fuel injector is bolted onto this injection housing and injects the fuel into it. This injection housing is bolted on the cylinder intake. The incoming air into the injection housing takes the injected fuel and goes together with the fuel into the cranckcase.

94BULLITT · Jan 22, 2020

How is the power band on both saws? Is the 462 like a 441, and has a narrow powerband?

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MustangMike · Jan 22, 2020

I did not think either one has a narrow power band, and I did lots of milling with my 441, but it was a carb version (not M Tronic).

When I milled the Ash logs for my cabin I only owned 2 saws, my 044 and a 441. The 441 was under warranty, so it got to do most of the milling. Never had a problem with it.

Spladle160 · Jan 22, 2020

I don't follow or get into snow mobiles. I knew they had direct injection but the time pumped location specific oiling and variable port/valve timing I was completely unaware of. That's some awesome stuff!

XP_Slinger · Jan 23, 2020

Spladle160 said:
I don't follow or get into snow mobiles. I knew they had direct injection but the time pumped location specific oiling and variable port/valve timing I was completely unaware of. That's some awesome stuff!

BRP uses the same technology in the ETEC line of Evinrude outboard boat engines. They’re badass

MG porting · Jan 23, 2020

huskyboy said:
With 2 stroke saws the mix needs to travel through bottom end first, unlike a 4 stroke car. So I am guessing direct injection for that would be a injector in the crankcase?

Yes in order for it to work it would have to be directed directly into the crank case in a chainsaw unless the saw was a 4stroke.

Spladle160 · Jan 23, 2020

Why couldn't you apply the ETEC BRP technology to a chainsaw? 20 years ago you could have never had a fuel injected chainsaw. Technology can be made smaller cheaper and lighter over time.

huskyboy · Jan 23, 2020

Spladle160 said:
Why couldn't you apply the ETEC BRP technology to a chainsaw? 20 years ago you could have never had a fuel injected chainsaw. Technology can be made smaller cheaper and lighter over time.

Well the 500i certainly ain’t cheap... yet

94BULLITT · Jan 23, 2020

huskyboy said:
Well the 500i certainly ain’t cheap... yet

How much is the 500i?

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CLEARCUT · Jan 23, 2020

This is a price sheet I was given from a local dealer. It shows the 500 being more than the 661.

94BULLITT · Jan 23, 2020

CLEARCUT said:
View attachment 220120 View attachment 220121 View attachment 220122 This is a price sheet I was given from a local dealer. It shows the 500 being more than the 661.

Thanks, I'll have to check with my dealer tomorrow.

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sawmikaze · Jan 25, 2020

CLEARCUT said:
View attachment 220120 View attachment 220121 View attachment 220122 This is a price sheet I was given from a local dealer. It shows the 500 being more than the 661.

I still can't figure out why the R models aren't listed with a light bar option in the catalog.

Considering you westcoasters are the majority of R model purchases and run longer bars.

Ryan Browne · Jan 25, 2020

sawmikaze said:
I still can't figure out why the R models aren't listed with a light bar option in the catalog.

Considering you westcoasters are the majority of R model purchases and run longer bars.

When you get that figured out, work on why we can't buy heated Stihls here.

94BULLITT · Jan 25, 2020

I may give the 500 some time to be out, and see what people think about it once it is released in the US. Maybe there will be some differences in the US and Euro model programming. Who knows, I may decide to get a 661.

Manofstihl661 · Jan 26, 2020

sawmikaze said:
I still can't figure out why the R models aren't listed with a light bar option in the catalog.

Considering you westcoasters are the majority of R model purchases and run longer bars.

Looks like the 500i R has the option and the 462 above it but the glare kinda obstructs it. Maybe not in every area though

MG porting · Jan 26, 2020

sawmikaze said:
I still can't figure out why the R models aren't listed with a light bar option in the catalog.

Considering you westcoasters are the majority of R model purchases and run longer bars.

Because the price difference would give you a stroke.

sawmikaze · Jan 26, 2020

MG porting said:
Because the price difference would give you a stroke.

My dealer doesn't even have the option to order the 462,461,661 R models with a light bar. Makes no sense.

Why would the price difference give me a stroke ?

MG porting · Jan 26, 2020

sawmikaze said:
My dealer doesn't even have the option to order the 462,461,661 R models with a light bar. Makes no sense.

Why would the price difference give me a stroke ?

The price difference between r an standard at least at my dealer is insane almost cheaper to get the West coast cover and handle bars and felling dogs separate but that's here not saying that's going to be everywhere.

sawmikaze · Jan 26, 2020

MG porting said:
The price difference between r an standard at least at my dealer is insane almost cheaper to get the West coast cover and handle bars and felling dogs separate but that's here not saying that's going to be everywhere.

You're getting hosed.

It's 30 bucks more to upgrade to an R model for me.

BonScott46 · Jan 26, 2020

I can't even get a 462 without heat let alone an R model.

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