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hseII · Feb 20, 2019

Cobby08 said:
https://www.stihl.com/STIHL-power-t...met-Set-with-very-high-light-penetration.aspx
This was just posted available in the NES warehouse. I think I'm going to bring one in the check it out a little better. Fortunately, most of the cutting I do is when it is ball shrinkagly cold out. Still somehow manage to sweat like crazy but I guess its better than 90 degrees out.

I obviously fly the Creamsicle flag pretty high so I try to stick to all the same but fwiw, I run the ProMark chaps, winter pants for when its cold and the ProMark Helmet.

Give it a go & provide feedback.

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Dustin4185 · Feb 20, 2019

David Young said:
Wow the first one must have been eye opening. That is the type of event that can make a person a believer. I wonder if he wears them as a habit now?

Yes, religiously! It took forever to get that crap out of that new 440. I am notorious for getting out and grabbing a saw to cut a downed tree across a road without chaps. I try my best to do better. I found a Plano plastic storage box similar to an ammo can, but bigger. I keep my chaps rolled up in the bottom, an extra chain, scrench, tuning screwdriver, plug, and fuel filter in the tray. The box goes in my toolbox. They are always with me now.

David Young · Feb 20, 2019

Here are some pictures of a hard hat that saved a mans life. this hard hat was well used and 11 years old at the time. It was subject to a 105 lb object falling from 40 feet.

The man lived but did need significant medical assistance.

100lb stick falling from that height is not very big, it could happen to any of us felling a tree.

Also this is why cutting with a buddy even a kid that can call for help may save your life.

Shanesaw80 · Feb 20, 2019

Slacker said:
No TSS/TCS rating listed on the forester brand chaps. ($45, apron style)
Does the ASTM rating mean anything to you?

Features & details

Meets ASTM F1897, OSHA 1910.266, UL Certified

Not suitable for use with electric chainsaws

See description for sizing information

"apron style" chaps protect front of both legs (most common injury area)

These chaps meet the Leg Protection Requirements for OSHA 1910.266 Standards for Chainsaw Operators and ASTM F1897 Standard Specification for Leg Protection for Chainsaw Users (ASTM F1897-2008 39JY.) UL Classified.

I’m not real familiar with that standard but what I can quickly gather is the ASTM F1897-2008 standard is a 2750 fpm, much lower then our minimum 3600 fpm. But again I’m not 100% sure that’s what those chaps you listed are rated, just what that standard states.

Shanesaw80 · Feb 20, 2019

Farmchuck said:
I got a pair of Pfanner pants & they never seem to fit right. They look like they are quality made for sure & are long enough, the waist isn’t to tight or anything but from the bottom of the fly zipper to the top
Of the waist band is about 3” shorter than any other pants I’ve ever worn making them extremely uncomfortable! I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this or not. Super durable pants for sure but they feel sooo uncomfortable when I put em on I hesitate to grab em when I go to cut. I have chaps which I wear instead but I’d really like to find a decent fitting quality pair of pants.
Also not trying to turn this into a whining post but I’ve never been able to find a hard hat that I can wear for any length of time without getting a headache. Tried 3 different brands/ styles & have adjusted the headband but after about an hour or so my head starts thumping. Please don’t misunderstand my post I want protection while cutting but I’d also like to be somewhat comfortable.

I’ve never noticed the pfanner pants being shorter in the waist but they are a slimmer fit, I needed to go up a size to be comfortable. I do know they make 3 different length of pants, short, normal and long. I’m pretty short and just wear the normal length pants, they fit great.

David Young · Feb 20, 2019

One thing about the protection of chaps is they need to be tight. The saw will want to pull the chaps sideways which could pull them off your leg or expose part of it. Thats why wrap chaps and pants may offer better protection.

an aside.
I use a pair of chaps while weed wacking with shorts underneath. it keeps my legs from getting hit with stones and having grass all over them. when done I put them on the ground and brush them off with a broom....Booooom!

Cobby08 · Feb 20, 2019

David Young said:
One thing about the protection of chaps is they need to be tight. The saw will want to pull the chaps sideways which could pull them off your leg or expose part of it. Thats why wrap chaps and pants may offer better protection.

an aside.
I use a pair of chaps while weed wacking with shorts underneath. it keeps my legs from getting hit with stones and having grass all over them. when done I put them on the ground and brush them off with a broom....Booooom!

Don't lie, you do it to try to rile up the Mrs.

Wait we weren't supposed to derail in this thread were we.

Farmchuck · Feb 20, 2019

Dustin4185 said:
Have you tried the lightweight style hard hats? More expensive, but easier on your head. I wear one from Bullard in the woods. Same one I wear on fires, and it is pretty comfortable after changing the front sweat band to a Tiger band. They are sold for welding helmets but work on any ratchet suspension helmet.

No I have not. Where do you buy these Bullards?

Farmchuck · Feb 20, 2019

hseII said:
Clogger Zeros

Go up 1 size so you’ve got the freedom you seek.

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Are they pretty comfortable? Have you worn Pfanner pants before? If so how do they compare? Thanks

Farmchuck · Feb 20, 2019

Shanesaw80 said:
I’ve never noticed the pfanner pants being shorter in the waist but they are a slimmer fit, I needed to go up a size to be comfortable. I do know they make 3 different length of pants, short, normal and long. I’m pretty short and just wear the normal length pants, they fit great.

This could be the case I suppose. Which Pfanners do you own? I believe mine were Gladiators medium tall. I guess I was kind of afraid I’d be swimming in Large talls. I’m 6’1” & weigh around 158 I usually get Carhartts in 33or 34 waist depending on if I’m wear long underwear bottoms or not. Thanks.

Mastermind · Feb 20, 2019

This is an excellent thread.....and idea.

Thank you.

Shanesaw80 · Feb 20, 2019

Farmchuck said:
This could be the case I suppose. Which Pfanners do you own? I believe mine were Gladiators medium tall. I guess I was kind of afraid I’d be swimming in Large talls. I’m 6’1” & weigh around 158 I usually get Carhartts in 33or 34 waist depending on if I’m wear long underwear bottoms or not. Thanks.

I’m wearing the Pfanner Gladiator Ventilation in a large, normal length. I’m short at 5’8” and weight 170lbs. I normally wear size 32 jeans but when I tried on the medium Pfanners they felt a little snug for my liking.

I’ve also heard great things about the Clogger Zeros. A friend of mine just bought a pair but hasn’t put a ton of time using them yet but they seem to be great quality. New Zeland made I believe? Again if your wearing these things everyday it’s worth the money to buy something that you actually find comfortable and has great protection.

Between my cutting boots, chainsaw pants and cutting jacket for when it’s cold I’m well into my gear for $1200+ Cnd. And that doesn’t include my hard hat setup but it’s fairly basic as a lot of the work I do requires a side impact hardhat as an industry standard. They are hot and heavy!

Dustin4185 · Feb 20, 2019

Farmchuck said:
No I have not. Where do you buy these Bullards?

We get ours through Forestry Suppliers. They aren’t that light or cheap. They are for woodland fire fighting. They also sell the Aluminum hard hats. I looked and you can get regular Bullard brand hats on Amazon.

Farmchuck · Feb 20, 2019

Shanesaw80 said:
I’m wearing the Pfanner Gladiator Ventilation in a large, normal length. I’m short at 5’8” and weight 170lbs. I normally wear size 32 jeans but when I tried on the medium Pfanners they felt a little snug for my liking.

I’ve also heard great things about the Clogger Zeros. A friend of mine just bought a pair but hasn’t put a ton of time using them yet but they seem to be great quality. New Zeland made I believe? Again if your wearing these things everyday it’s worth the money to buy something that you actually find comfortable and has great protection.

Between my cutting boots, chainsaw pants and cutting jacket for when it’s cold I’m well into my gear for $1200+ Cnd. And that doesn’t include my hard hat setup but it’s fairly basic as a lot of the work I do requires a side impact hardhat as an industry standard. They are hot and heavy!

Thank for the info.

Farmchuck · Feb 20, 2019

Dustin4185 said:
We get ours through Forestry Suppliers. They aren’t that light or cheap. They are for woodland fire fighting. They also sell the Aluminum hard hats. I looked and you can get regular Bullard brand hats on Amazon.

Thanks for the info.

treesmith · Feb 20, 2019

Slacker said:
Can an experienced cutter please recommend a comfortable lightweight helmet that a weekend firewood cutter would be well served with?

I know myself...if its heavy and hurts my head, I wont wear it.
I wear safety glasses so built in face protection not needed, nor is ear pro.
Or at least detachable. I'd prefer not to pay extra for them, just to remove.

Thank you!!!

Husky brabded forestry lid with msa muffs is great in all conditions except hot and humid, suspension harness, tough comfy. The husky arborist lid is smaller peak and chin strap. It's available under other names too.

For cost and comfort and durability I really like the petzl vertex vent, similar but light, adjustable vents, good chin strap and takes petzl add ons like a headtorch, the msa chipper spec muffs are brilliant and comfy, the ultravision mesh visor is very nice too. I used the husky lid for years in cold weather

treesmith · Feb 20, 2019

treesmith · Feb 21, 2019

hseII said:
Clogger Zeros

Go up 1 size so you’ve got the freedom you seek.

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Nice Meindl airstreams too Heath, like em?

XP_Slinger · Feb 24, 2019

treesmith said:
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I have the same lid. No complaints except the suspension adjustment is old school like a ball cap. Think that has changed though, bought my son a helmet and his has a ratcheting adjuster knob.

RI Chevy · Feb 24, 2019

Just a quick story. In the late 90s, I was clearing a lot for a neighbor. Small aspen type trees maybe 12" in diameter. I had cut through a full tank of fuel, clearing timber like a banshe. I refueled and touched up my chain. Went back to cutting. I was on a down hill slope and wearing mil mil spec BDUs that were loose and baggy. My 029 FB cut through the tree. As the saw was slowing down I lowered the saw down. It got ahold of the baggy BDUs and the chain grabbed them causing saw to get pulled in. My pants had a 5 inch slice across the left knee. I never felt anything and proceeded to the next tree saying wow, that was close. I cut the next tree and bucked it. Homeowner then came running over to me. Pointing to my leg he said are you OK? I shut saw off and looked...... From knee down was blood red. Couldnt see camo through the blood. I looked through the pants where they were cut and saw my white knee cap.
I then realized my day was done. I pinched my skin at my knee closed, gathered my stuff, put everything in my trunk and drove myself to hospital. Fortunately I made out well. Freshly sharpened chain may have saved me further damage. Never touched my knee cap. Clean and shiny they are. And the cut on my knee looked like it was cut with a scalpel. I got 50 stitches. 25 inside and 25 out. Healed up really well.
I bought my first set of chaps (Labbonville) in 2016. I wear them most everytime I cut.
Now it sounds as if I'm going to have to buy a helmet.
Story over.

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