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Dacron 80# kite or fishing string. Had to go away from using it on rough bark. My problem may have been not using a large two inch ring on the end.
 

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I use a small 1 ft piece of branch that I cut when I get to job, tie it to my rope, then make several heave ho attempts until I get it where I want it. I know.... total redneck!!! LMAO
 

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I use a small 1 ft piece of branch that I cut when I get to job, tie it to my rope, then make several heave ho attempts until I get it where I want it. I know.... total redneck!!! LMAO
You could always *s-word in a sock and tie your rope to it if you are in a real pinch....
 

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Not sure if your still looking but I'm a fan of Samson ropes, I have nothing against other brands it's just my preference. For light rigging you do not need anything larger than a half inch rope, Samson stable braid 1/2" has a breaking strength of over 10,000lbs.

Stable braid is great for using as a pull rope and a rigging rope with rigging rings or blocks, not natural crotch. It has little stretch. This rope is an industry standard as it knots well, is easily spliced, and has superior strength.

Samson Hawkeye is a 16 strand rope it is one of their 16 strands, all 3 of them are the same construction with the only difference between ropes being the color. This rope is designed as a climbing rope but makes a great light lowering rope, MBS (minimum breaking strength) of about 8,000 lbs if I remember correctly. It works well in rings, blocks, and natural crotch. It has some stretch

Samson true blue is a 12 strand rope, has many of the same characteristics as the 16 strand, also designed as a climbing rope and excels at all 3 rigging styles. This rope holds up to natural crotch even better than the 16 strand and has more stretch.

3 strand rope can be used for natural crotch but does not work well with hardware. If you look at the construction the more parell that the strands are with the rope direction the better that it works with natural crotch, 24 strand (stable braid) is almost perpendicular to the rope's direction and will glaze or melt when used natural crotch.

Stretch in a rigging rope is not necessarily a bad thing, it is just something to consider in each situation. The stretch in a rope can help dampen the shock load when rigging pieces out and can also help add a little extra pull when using as a pull rope. As a negative when rigging in a tight situation such as close to a roof, the stretch in the rope could cause the limb to make contact with the roof.

I buy most of my ropes through treestuff but they are located 3 hrs from me so shipping is fast. If you do not need a long rope wespur sells random lengths at a discounted price as a clearance rope.


As for the throwline I often never need more than one throw weight. If you girth hitch the line onto the ring with no other knots in the line, just leave about a 3" tail, then if the throw weight were to hang up just pull hard and the throw line will come off of the weight. Most times it is a combination of the throwline and the throw weight that cause them to hang up and once they untie themselves both will come out of the tree. Another tip is when you throw it do not stop the weight until it's on the ground unless its headed for a valuable. The sudden stop of you grabbing the throwline will cause the weight to wrap around twigs and limbs, not to mention the possibility of the line cutting your hand. Last tip for now is if you do not get the throw that you wanted but the weight makes it to the ground, untie it before pulling it out. This will allow the string to come out without hanging up and prevent a throw weight from coming down onto your head as it free falls out of the tree.
 
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Not sure if your still looking but I'm a fan of Samson ropes, I have nothing against other brands it's just my preference. For light rigging you do not need anything larger than a half inch rope, Samson stable braid 1/2" has a breaking strength of over 10,000lbs.

Stable braid is great for using as a pull rope and a rigging rope with rigging rings or blocks, not natural crotch. It has little stretch. This rope is an industry standard as it knots well, is easily spliced, and has superior strength.

Samson Hawkeye is a 16 strand rope it is one of their 16 strands, all 3 of them are the same construction with the only difference between ropes being the color. This rope is designed as a climbing rope but makes a great light lowering rope, MBS (minimum breaking strength) of about 8,000 lbs if I remember correctly. It works well in rings, blocks, and natural crotch. It has some stretch

Samson true blue is a 12 strand rope, has many of the same characteristics as the 16 strand, also designed as a climbing rope and excels at all 3 rigging styles. This rope holds up to natural crotch even better than the 16 strand and has more stretch.

3 strand rope can be used for natural crotch but does not work well with hardware. If you look at the construction the more parell that the strands are with the rope direction the better that it works with natural crotch, 24 strand (stable braid) is almost perpendicular to the rope's direction and will glaze or melt when used natural crotch.

Stretch in a rigging rope is not necessarily a bad thing, it is just something to consider in each situation. The stretch in a rope can help dampen the shock load when rigging pieces out and can also help add a little extra pull when using as a pull rope. As a negative when rigging in a tight situation such as close to a roof, the stretch in the rope could cause the limb to make contact with the roof.

I buy most of my ropes through treestuff but they are located 3 hrs from me so shipping is fast. If you do not need a long rope wespur sells random lengths at a discounted price as a clearance rope.


As for the throwline I often never need more than one throw weight. If you girth hitch the line onto the ring with no other knots in the line, just leave about a 3" tail, then if the throw weight were to hang up just pull hard and the throw line will come off of the weight. Most times it is a combination of the throwline and the throw weight that cause them to hang up and once they untie themselves both will come out of the tree. Another tip is when you throw it do not stop the weight until it's on the ground unless its headed for a valuable. The sudden stop of you grabbing the throwline will cause the weight to wrap around twigs and limbs, not to mention the possibility of the line cutting your hand. Last tip for now is if you do not get the throw that you wanted but the weight makes it to the ground, untie it before pulling it out. This will allow the string to come out without hanging up and prevent a throw weight from coming down onto your head as it free falls out of the tree.

do you use Ring and Ring or other cambium savers ? if so whats your preference for rope with them.
ps I was always told a "climb" line is for "Climbing" only and a rig line is for what ever else... :(
 

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do you use Ring and Ring or other cambium savers ? if so whats your preference for rope with them.
ps I was always told a "climb" line is for "Climbing" only and a rig line is for what ever else... :(

Haha. Yes a climb line is only for climbing however it's not truly a climbing rope until you buy a new rope and decide that is its purpose. Just because it is marketed as a climbing rope does not mean it cannot be a rigging rope, just be sure to never climb on rigging gear.

As for a ring and ring, personally I do not because when I climb it is SRT, which does not require a friction saver because the rope is stationary. I do advocate for a friction saver to protect the tree if it is not being removed and it's up to your discretion if it is a removal. Not using one can wear your rope quicker.

For a good all around climbing rope I would recommend a 16 or 24 strand rope. Both work well in a doubled rope system and the 24 works well in SRT if you ever go that route. Personally I climb on Samson vortex which is an 12.7mm diameter rope I also climb on a new England tachyon which is a 11.5mm.

Climbing doubled unless you are using ascender you will likely want a 1/2" rope (13mm) or close to it as it is easier to grip than a skinnier rope.
 
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do you use Ring and Ring or other cambium savers ? if so whats your preference for rope with them.
ps I was always told a "climb" line is for "Climbing" only and a rig line is for what ever else... :(
I told you already remember?
 
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