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MG2186 · Mar 20, 2018

Hinerman said:
What Ford diesel are you running and how is it working out for you?

Mines just an old 7.3 with some upgrades. Only thing I’ve ever done to the engine other than the bigger turbo and injectors is I’ve had to replace 1 glow plug, water pump and cam position sensor. It’s got 242,000 and still runs like a dream. I really have no interest in anything newer

teacherman · Mar 20, 2018

Locust Cutter said:
My dually sines when moving heavy crap. I really am attached to Dad's '03 F-250, reg-cab, LB with the largely bullet-proofed 6.0 Powertroke, 5R110 Torqueshift and manual t-case 4x4. It would be even better as a 6spd manual (I miss my old ZF6) but it's a darn handy truck for everything else beyond towing our 29.5' fifth-wheel TT WITH the family. It also is a good bit lighter, handier and tighter turning in ranch conditions, with better ground clearance and entry/departure angles.

I suspect that I would love an '05+ GM HD reg cab/lb Duramax 4x4 just as much, outside of the goofy lower frame section under the cab and possible pump-rub issues. But, everything has its issues, and almost all are good trucks these days. If I could have the Ram body, on a Superduty Frame, with a GM interior (or Toyota Tundra), (any of the big 3 diesels or a Hino I6) 6spd manual and 4x4 (with factory 19.5 wheels) I'd be happier than a hog in slop.

I thought on it long and hard, and I concluded that the 6.0 would do what I need it to do, and though the Duramax would be awesome for big hauls, I don't need it, and the extra cost up front and complexity of maintenance seemed unnecessary. I think a 10K travel trailer would do OK behind it. Drives great so far, and I never thought a heated steering wheel or air conditioned seat was a thing, but apparently it is, LOL.

Hedgerow · Mar 20, 2018

Hard to wear a 7.3 out...

MG2186 · Mar 21, 2018

Hedgerow said:
Hard to wear a 7.3 out...

If they get any maintenance at all they’ll run as long as anything. I’ve seen a lot of them with over 500,000 miles on. 6.0’s actually run a long time after they’re deleted and good head gaskets are installed

67L36Driver · Mar 21, 2018

Morning midlanders!

Hinerman · Mar 21, 2018

Good Morning Carl.

Have a Good Day everybody.

teacherman · Mar 21, 2018

MG2186 said:
If they get any maintenance at all they’ll run as long as anything. I’ve seen a lot of them with over 500,000 miles on. 6.0’s actually run a long time after they’re deleted and good head gaskets are installed

Deleted?

stihl livin · Mar 21, 2018

teacherman said:
Deleted?

I think he’s talking about the 6.0 Ford diesel. Some diesel need to have their nuts cut off to run better. Thanks to the epa

Jetmd · Mar 21, 2018

I like my old 7.3 it seems to run OK for me.

Morning Fellow Wood Knot's!

teacherman · Mar 21, 2018

Good morning!

I have Emerson home for spring break this week, and we went to Northern in Lenexa yesterday to look at toolboxes. The Primate was a big hit with the staff there, and at Maisch Small Engine (my favorite Stihl dealer), where he dutifully recited the sacred mantra, "Stihl Über Alles," much to the delight of Eric, the counter man there. Got a couple of triple lock carabiners, which I DESPISE, but are required by the government in its infinite regulatory wisdom...

The brand I got are easier to operate one-handed than the Black Diamond ones I have for rock climbing, and the price was right.

Pawn shop find: a 28v Milwaukee bandsaw kit in the case, looked nearly brand new, three bills out the door. I have more red cordless tools now than a construction company

The 4 foot box at Northern is definitely built more heavily than the ones at Tractor Supply, but they're half again the cost, and the sealing gasket doesn't look like much. Also, the weight becomes a consideration, being as they'll be situated on the front rail of the trailer. Higher tongue weight would make the truck ride more smoothly, but would make the rig harder for me to move around when hooking and unhooking. Add to that the 50 lbs of angle iron for the bracket assembly, and I'm leaning more toward the lightweight setup. TSC ones have only one lock, but there are three locking tabs that engage the box.

Maybe I should just bite down hard and get the pricey aluminum ones...

Just thinking out loud, thanks for listening.

Have a good productive day!

moparnut88 · Mar 21, 2018

teacherman said:
Deleted?

Yep talking about all the epa added emission garbage.

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teacherman · Mar 21, 2018

stihl livin said:
I think he’s talking about the 6.0 Ford diesel. Some diesel need to have their nuts cut off to run better. Thanks to the epa

OK. I wonder what that entails. I imagine slipping an elastrator band over a few sensor modules... Or is it a programming change?

I do know the particle size of diesel exhaust is just right to mess up lungs, too small for the cilia to catch, too large to be absorbed and processed. As a kid in pre-EPA Chicago, I remember being out of school for days sometimes with terrible asthma attacks, this being before the modern meds and inhalers were available. But all the power-robbing crap they put on cars in the 80s was a real headache.

I read up a bit on the DEF, not knowing how it works, and basically they said it can actually help by letting the mfr tune the engine for better power and efficiency because it treats the exhaust, that the new diesels have really good power and mileage. But I have no claim to know anything on this, and I'm sure as heck not interested in a debate. I do like being able to breathe, though. Used to have the bus company a block away, and their whole fleet of 1950s buses idling away on a winter morning made going out to the back yard worse than smoking cigarettes. Also the trains are a block and a half north of me, and they used to have a locomotive idling there 24/7.

moparnut88 · Mar 21, 2018

teacherman said:
OK. I wonder what that entails. I imagine slipping an elastrator band over a few sensor modules... Or is it a programming change?

I do know the particle size of diesel exhaust is just right to mess up lungs, too small for the cilia to catch, too large to be absorbed and processed. As a kid in pre-EPA Chicago, I remember being out of school for days sometimes with terrible asthma attacks, this being before the modern meds and inhalers were available. But all the power-robbing crap they put on cars in the 80s was a real headache.

I read up a bit on the DEF, not knowing how it works, and basically they said it can actually help by letting the mfr tune the engine for better power and efficiency because it treats the exhaust, that the new diesels have really good power and mileage. But I have no claim to know anything on this, and I'm sure as heck not interested in a debate. I do like being able to breathe, though. Used to have the bus company a block away, and their whole fleet of 1950s buses idling away on a winter morning made going out to the back yard worse than smoking cigarettes. Also the trains are a block and a half north of me, and they used to have a locomotive idling there 24/7.

What is done during deleting a diesel is usually program changing most of the time, an ecu reflash or a standalone ecu and removing the dpf, def, nox, and egr among other things. Usually allows a straight exhaust to be installed if desired allowing the engine to breath and run as if pre emissions plus better programming to allow better power and mileage. I've seen as much as 8-10mpg improvements and 165hp gains on 6.7 cummins trucks 07.5-12 models.

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Workshop · Mar 21, 2018

Morning everybody.

MG2186 · Mar 21, 2018

moparnut88 said:
What is done during deleting a diesel is usually program changing most of the time, an ecu reflash or a standalone ecu and removing the dpf, def, nox, and egr among other things. Usually allows a straight exhaust to be installed if desired allowing the engine to breath and run as if pre emissions plus better programming to allow better power and mileage. I've seen as much as 8-10mpg improvements and 165hp gains on 6.7 cummins trucks 07.5-12 models.

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Yea the 6.4’s I’ve done/been around have seen the same results. You won’t even believe it’s the same truck after it’s done and will make ones life a lot less troublesome down the road. It’s not if the emissions crap fails it’s WHEN! Go figure it usually last till the warranty is off too

teacherman · Mar 21, 2018

moparnut88 said:
What is done during deleting a diesel is usually program changing most of the time, an ecu reflash or a standalone ecu and removing the dpf, def, nox, and egr among other things. Usually allows a straight exhaust to be installed if desired allowing the engine to breath and run as if pre emissions plus better programming to allow better power and mileage. I've seen as much as 8-10mpg improvements and 165hp gains on 6.7 cummins trucks 07.5-12 models.

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That's a huge improvement. I can see why people do it. I imagine the filter especially robs power.
Makes me wonder about back pressure. When I rode scoots, I got Reinharts on my 2011 RKC and a Stage 2 cam and tuner module, but they said that there needs to be some back pressure on there to prevent valve burn and help with scavenging exhaust gases, that the 2 in 1 actually made it faster. I wonder about saws as well on that. I will say that the Reinharts have the best sound of any pipes, and that made it worth the hassles of baffles falling out and so forth. I beat the baffles out of round a bit and jammed them back in, no problem since I did that...

moparnut88 · Mar 21, 2018

teacherman said:
That's a huge improvement. I can see why people do it. I imagine the filter especially robs power.
Makes me wonder about back pressure. When I rode scoots, I got Reinharts on my 2011 RKC and a Stage 2 cam and tuner module, but they said that there needs to be some back pressure on there to prevent valve burn and help with scavenging exhaust gases, that the 2 in 1 actually made it faster. I wonder about saws as well on that. I will say that the Reinharts have the best sound of any pipes, and that made it worth the hassles of baffles falling out and so forth. I beat the baffles out of round a bit and jammed them back in, no problem since I did that...

Yea we seen similar results with dirt track cars with tri-y headers vs regular long tube headers. Tri-y scavenged better. But diesel is a whole different animal. Flow is good.

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Dub11 · Mar 21, 2018

MG2186 said:
Yea the 6.4’s I’ve done/been around have seen the same results. You won’t even believe it’s the same truck after it’s done and will make ones life a lot less troublesome down the road. It’s not if the emissions crap fails it’s WHEN! Go figure it usually last till the warranty is off too

I bet big 3 spend more money on figuring out if there junk is going to make it out of warranty than actually making stuff right lol.

MG2186 · Mar 21, 2018

Dub11 said:
I bet big 3 spend more money on figuring out if there junk is going to make it out of warranty than actually making stuff right lol.

That’s pretty much true with everything anymore the way it looks

Dub11 · Mar 21, 2018

MG2186 said:
That’s pretty much true with everything anymore the way it looks

True, but for what they are asking for these trucks today they should be better.

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