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Think torque port work will allow the 262 to pull a 28" with 3/8" full comp, 7 pin rim?

I happened to check something today, and one of my used (lettering worn off) Mac branded 28" bar just needs two holes drilled for oiler and adjustment to fit on a small mount Husky... bar is off of a PM850, which also fits PM610, and such...

I have a couple other ones new in wrap, so drilling this one doesn't sound too stupid... or does it?

So... what do you think?

You know what... think I will just buy a new or lightly used 28" Husky small mount.

I wouldn’t go bigger than 20” personally on a 60cc Saw. That doesn’t mean it won’t pull a 28”. I doubt if it can oil a bar that big however. It’s not designed for it. And if it gets hot from limited oil, say goodbye to your ported Saw...
 

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I wouldn’t go bigger than 20” personally on a 60cc Saw. That doesn’t mean it won’t pull a 28”. I doubt if it can oil a bar that big however. It’s not designed for it. And if it gets hot from limited oil, say goodbye to your ported Saw...
From reading the factory specs, the 562 is designed for up to 28” bars factory. Not sure what they recommend for a 262 factory?
 
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To quote my favorite spa operator: "A stock 262 with the KS cylinder and HDA-87 carb cannot be improved much by a normal porting. The Mahle cylinder can yield much larger gains."

So I've followed this advice with both of my 262s and am a happy guy.

Well... I hope to prove your spa operator wrong. [emoji41]
I have not run a stock ks 87 stock yet, but I will.
And what is “normal porting”
 

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Not sure which cylinder mine has...

I just want torque... so if a tiny bit of massaging adds a tiny bit... good. Not looking for an all out race saw. As for cylinders, I have also heard KS's are hard to beat stock, but Mahle's leave some space for improvement.

I figure Dan knows what he's doing... probably going to use a very conservative approach and focus more on port angles than size. There may not be a huge gain, but a little bit certainly won't hurt.

Your saw will be nothing like it is stock. I believe it has a maple decomp cyl and 120 carb. I’ll check tomorrow. I know what has worked for me in the past. We will start there...
 

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Torque is where it’s at for me too. I’ll likely do my normal routine of building it stock then go back into it eventually. I have an HDA 120 carb; do you know if the 87 is the better performer? If it’s a substantial improvement for the 262 to run the 87 it won’t hurt my feelings to bolt the 120 onto my 254 for an upgrade and get an 87 for the 262

Stock it doesn’t seem to make much difference, but Doc and I tested them ported and the difference was very noticeable. They are hard to find though. But we may have a few tricks........[emoji41]
 

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The one with the torque port work? Yes, that is how I'd like mine to run as well.

I have also been thinking about a 20" bar as well... probably be a good idea. Plus it takes a 72 DL chain just like the 372... so getting it in .058 gauge will mean interchangeable chains.

If I suddenly find I need more, I will either buy one for either the small mount, or the large mount Husky, or fit the Windsor Speed Tip from the Macs on the small mount Husky.

I’d fit The 372 with the 28” bar. 20” on the 262.
 

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Not sure how accurate this info is but seems like the oiler on 262 is designed for 20” bars. View attachment 107165

Maximum stock bar on a small mount husky is 24” so I know it’s not designed for over that. If you wanted a long bar for reach, ok... but not to bury in wood.
 

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I like a 24" on a 372. I have a 28" and it's a bit heavy for my liking... I should have gotten a 28" lightweight bar. My 372 tends to be my goto saw for ground work when doing a tree job w/ my bro. What I like about the 24" bar is I just know where the bar is when cutting things up -- I can judge and know when to stop a cut before hitting ground or a rock or whatever.... just so used to 24" on 372.

My 262XP is 1991 that came with KS cylinder and HDA87 carb. It really sings and w/ a 20" bar is just so much fun to dog in and let it rotate on the dog through the wood.
Makes big chips and it is simply a blast to run. I set it for high 13's or 14K and she just rips.

Right now mine developed a bogging issue -- it's been running after port work by Randy for a couple years now. I also had Al repair a boo boo for me (a case half was damaged) and at the same time Al converted it to clutch driven oiler which is a nice upgrade. I have a carb kit and need to check a few things and if it is the carb as I suspect, install the kit.

Many say that a ported 262XP can eliminate the need for a 70cc saw.

I've also run a bone stock 262 that is a 1990 model with KS cylinder and it came with and 87, but the owner put a 120 on it before the sale -- which was fine. I totally understand him saving the 87 for other projects -- especially if you get a 262 ported. From what I understand a stock 262 w/ 120 or 87 you won't see a difference. It was still an absolute pleasure to run. That saw I helped out a friend who was looking for a decent saw for campground maintenance and when it came up for sale I figured perfect. That one I set at about 13,500 and she was also a pleasure to run. 20" bar on that too.

You guys when you get these 262s from Dan you will enjoy them. I know there is a lot of hype about 262s -- they are a great saw. I really don't see many guys complain about them... even the die hard Stihl guys. Al @drf256 is a Stihl guy for sure, but Al makes an exception for 262s -- he likes them. Al has had a lot of success with 262s just like he does with the 026.

Cheers.
 

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I’ll be running a 20” bar on mine, it’s the ideal size for a 60cc saw IMO. Doc had what could’ve been a great thread started on the 262 a while back regarding all aspects of modding them. It ended up turning into transfer backstuffing theory.

After getting caught up on the differences between carbs here’s my thoughts. While the 87 is the better carb because of its larger bore I don’t see mods as pointless without it. It just requires a different approach to setting up the intake...smaller carbs need more time. I’ll figure out what I want to do when the time comes. Not sure the 199 is the best option, the backwards choke operation would drive me nuts. In the end, I’m a firewood guy that enjoys getting more out of my saws. Leaving a little on the table while I search for a carb won’t bother me.
 
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I’ll be running a 20” bar on mine, it’s the ideal size for a 60cc saw IMO. Doc had what could’ve been a great thread started on the 262 a while back regarding all aspects of modding them. It ended up turning into transfer backstuffing theory.

After getting caught up on the differences between carbs here’s my thoughts. While the 87 is the better carb because of its larger bore I don’t see mods as pointless without it. It just requires a different approach to setting up the intake...smaller carbs need more time. I’ll figure out what I want to do when the time comes. Not sure the 199 is the best option, the backwards choke operation would drive me nuts. In the end, I’m a firewood guy that enjoys getting more out of my saws. Leaving a little on the table while I search for a carb won’t bother me.

I believe there are other options for carbs as well. I’m going to try some things.




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I believe there are other options for carbs as well. I’m going to try some things.




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Looking forward to seeing your work. I’m still digging around searching for carb options. Maybe I’ll discover something, ya never know
 

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Cleaned up the area, dug our the loose mag rot, Jb weld is setting
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Taking a look at things to get an idea of flow patterns.
BDC
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This is where transfers first crack open
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This is a visual of how much blowdown we have
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This is the orientation of the crank when they crack open
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And BDC again
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So you can see how important the piston windows are!
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