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So, maybe this ain't a popular opinion here, and I'm alright with that.


I'm starting this thread because i see some words getting thrown around that I think we'd do better to eliminate from our vocabulary. I figured I'd start my own thread rather than stand on a soap-box.

So, mainly the words that I've been seeing are "gay" and "ghey" used to denote when something is lame or bad or dumb. Well, I personally think that that's inappropriate. And, frankly, hateful. I grew up in the Midwest. "Gay" got used every day in my high school the way it gets used here. I'm guilty of using it myself. But after high school someone took me aside and explained to me what I'm trying to say here. That "gay" isn't a bad thing. It's not wrong to be gay, and using "gay" in language to mean the same thing as "$hitty" is just another instance of putting down someone else who is different.

Now, maybe you use this word, and maybe you honestly, truly don't think less of gay folks. That's probably where I was at when I used it in high school. One of my aunts is gay. She's been an incredible figure in my life. I don't now and didn't then mean any harm gay people. I used the word without realizing that it is hurtful to them. And it is. Maybe not every gay person is bothered by it, but some are, and that's enough for me to stop using it. Hopefully for you too.

I know that political correctness fit the sake of political correctness isn't popular around here, and that's fine. To me, this isn't about that. It's about not using language that completely unnecessarily degrades others. You don't actually think it's homosexual that your truck wouldn't start. Just say it's dumb and get to fixing it. Saying it's "gay" just drives a wedge between people. It makes look like a bigot and disrespectful. Would you walk around saying "that's so black" or "that's so Latino". No, because that's out of line. It's derogatory, just like saying "that's so gay".

I'm not gonna address it in depth right now, but calling people "pussy", or saying something is "pussy" would be another one I think we can eliminate.



So, if anyone wants to chime in, I'd love to hear what people think. Personally, i think that, as a community, we'll be better off if we strive to be respectful of all people with our language.

Thanks for reading, and have yourself a good one. :)

-Ryan
 

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I haven't seen any of this my self here or any racist stuff thank goodness. Bit I know what you mean always felt bad for my mom because here middle name is Gay so yeah like her parents knew it was goin to be a new slang term. Thanks for bringing this up.
 

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So, maybe this ain't a popular opinion here, and I'm alright with that.


I'm starting this thread because i see some words getting thrown around that I think we'd do better to eliminate from our vocabulary. I figured I'd start my own thread rather than stand on a soap-box.

So, mainly the words that I've been seeing are "gay" and "ghey" used to denote when something is lame or bad or dumb. Well, I personally think that that's inappropriate. And, frankly, hateful. I grew up in the Midwest. "Gay" got used every day in my high school the way it gets used here. I'm guilty of using it myself. But after high school someone took me aside and explained to me what I'm trying to say here. That "gay" isn't a bad thing. It's not wrong to be gay, and using "gay" in language to mean the same thing as "$hitty" is just another instance of putting down someone else who is different.

Now, maybe you use this word, and maybe you honestly, truly don't think less of gay folks. That's probably where I was at when I used it in high school. One of my aunts is gay. She's been an incredible figure in my life. I don't now and didn't then mean any harm gay people. I used the word without realizing that it is hurtful to them. And it is. Maybe not every gay person is bothered by it, but some are, and that's enough for me to stop using it. Hopefully for you too.

I know that political correctness fit the sake of political correctness isn't popular around here, and that's fine. To me, this isn't about that. It's about not using language that completely unnecessarily degrades others. You don't actually think it's homosexual that your truck wouldn't start. Just say it's dumb and get to fixing it. Saying it's "gay" just drives a wedge between people. It makes look like a bigot and disrespectful. Would you walk around saying "that's so black" or "that's so Latino". No, because that's out of line. It's derogatory, just like saying "that's so gay".

I'm not gonna address it in depth right now, but calling people "pussy", or saying something is "pussy" would be another one I think we can eliminate.



So, if anyone wants to chime in, I'd love to hear what people think. Personally, i think that, as a community, we'll be better off if we strive to be respectful of all people with our language.

Thanks for reading, and have yourself a good one. :)

-Ryan
Ok I understand you not liking slang terms but I have a problem here. I have a right here with freedom of speech and religion here as a US citizen. In my religion its a sin to be gay or lesbian but you are saying its ok? Is that what your are saying? We r taught in my faith to not hate the sinner but the sin itself but when u start trying to force on myself or my children that being gay or lesbian is normal or ok thats stepping on my toes
 

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Ok I understand you not liking slang terms but I have a problem here. I have a right here with freedom of speech and religion here as a US citizen. In my religion its a sin to be gay or lesbian but you are saying its ok? Is that what your are saying? We r taught in my faith to not hate the sinner but the sin itself but when u start trying to force on myself or my children that being gay or lesbian is normal or ok thats stepping on my toes
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Ok I understand you not liking slang terms but I have a problem here. I have a right here with freedom of speech and religion here as a US citizen. In my religion its a sin to be gay or lesbian but you are saying its ok? Is that what your are saying? We r taught in my faith to not hate the sinner but the sin itself but when u start trying to force on myself or my children that being gay or lesbian is normal or ok thats stepping on my toes

So, you're for freedom of religion as long as it's your religion?
 

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Believe what u want . I stated what I believe in and wont change my statement or belief. Hes saying its alright to be that way and Im saying its not.

You specifically said you're for freedom of religion. What if someone's religion has no issue with them being gay? What now?
 

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You specifically said you're for freedom of religion. What if someone's religion has no issue with them being gay? What now?
Thats their choice but dont drag it in a public forum and state that its okay to be gay but its not for me and religion to believe that way. Politics, religion ,sexual preference shouldnt be drug into this site. Talk to the OP about forcing gay rights on people on this site
 
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OP, young man...best prescription for here is a little tougher, calloused hide...a damn good sense of humor, and don't let nothing get under your skin.

No one is intentionally using terms on this site to 'offend' anyone, that I can tell, and most others, probably as well.

Most fellas here are much older than you (I for one have a son your age and a daughter not far behind) and I just like many of them here, have been through and had to eat many of lifes' chit sandwiches a time or ten over the decades...and we take our helping each other with outdoor power equipment, supporting each other, etc, etc as serious business. The flip side of that coin...the cutting up, ribbing one another, picking on one another, we take as a grain of salt and a little daily humor...and at the end of the day, push come to shove and in a pinch, there ain't a damn soul here that wouldn't give a fellow man or his family here on this forum, the shirt off his own back and the last dollar in his pocket.
 
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Thats their choice but dont drag it in a public forum and state that its ok.ay be for him but its not for me and religion, politics, sexual preference shouldnt be drug into this site. Talk to the OP about forcing gay rights on people on this site


What exactly are you being forced to do?
 

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Gee lets all get bogged down in a pointless semantic argument .
In before the lock.

And by the way. I think some of the most boring,tedious,trifling obnoxious people I know male,female,gay or straight are those who define themselves wholly or in large part by their sexuality or orientation. Also the easiest offended.
 
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