My Split Second Splitter was Delivered Today

KiwiBro (deleted) · Oct 22, 2016

94BULLITT said:
I ran out of gas for the first time at 4.3 hours. When I refilled it I found out the tank holds just under a gallon.

How much split wood did you have after those 4.3 hrs?

KiwiBro (deleted) · Oct 22, 2016

Philbert said:
Aside from reduced maintenance, it would let you work in a covered barn or garage too, without worrying about deafening noise (metal buildings) or carbon monoxide poisoning.

Philbert

Some days we could crank the music up, or listen to a few talking books, etc. And work late or start early without worrying about noise.

94BULLITT · Oct 23, 2016

KiwiBro said:
How much split wood did you have after those 4.3 hrs?

I did not do too good. A lot of the wood I got was sap rotted. So I was splitting the sap rotted portion off to make a good piece of wood, wasting time and ending up with smaller than normal splits. I got a trailer load(1.3 cords), 2 8' pick up loads stacked (.6 ea), I have a pallet of sap wood (.25 cord), then I have a little sap wood and some good wood left over so right around 3 cords, maybe a little more or little less. That would be right at .7 cords an hour. Maybe half of it was done by myself.

sunfish · Oct 25, 2016

This looks like one of the better Super Split copies. Hope it serves well.

Duce · Oct 25, 2016

Does it need a taller wedge, seems to jump it? Looks nice and fast.

Hinerman · Oct 25, 2016

Duce said:
Does it need a taller wedge, seems to jump it? Looks nice and fast.

No, not IMO. The wedge is already taller than the SS. I think what you are seeing is the nature of the beast. It appears to also be caused by the splits not being cut perpendicular to the beam; the ram pushes up on the round, or even goes under the round at times. There are other factors too causing the round to jump, just like on a hydraulic, but it happens much slower on a hydraulic.

94BULLITT · Oct 25, 2016

@KiwiBro Here are some of the sappy pieces I was talking about. I split them off to make a good piece of wood. It wastes a lot of time.

94BULLITT · Oct 25, 2016

Duce said:
Does it need a taller wedge, seems to jump it? Looks nice and fast.

The knife is tall enough. It was operator error causing them to fly up. I've only had it happen a handful of times and of course a couple of those times had to be when I was making video. The squarest end should be against the knife. I think it is best to have a knot against the knife too.

Hinerman said:
No, not IMO. The wedge is already taller than the SS. I think what you are seeing is the nature of the beast. It appears to also be caused by the splits not being cut perpendicular to the beam; the ram pushes up on the round, or even goes under the round at times. There are other factors too causing the round to jump, just like on a hydraulic, but it happens much slower on a hydraulic.

The knife is 6 3/4'' tall. It also is slightly angled to help keep wood from flying.

Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out the best way to cut a log that is real crooked/ curvy and end up with some pieces with an angle.

94BULLITT · Oct 25, 2016

I'm uploading a new video now. It is taking forever. I probably have another 4 hours.

KiwiBro (deleted) · Oct 25, 2016

94BULLITT said:
@KiwiBro Here are some of the sappy pieces I was talking about. I split them off to make a good piece of wood. It wastes a lot of time.

Thanks. Have done similar in the past too. But didn't have to reach around and engage a safety handle before engaging the rack so wasn't too frustrating. Probably wouldn't do it again though unless getting paid by the hour or it was for a friend or family.

KiwiBro (deleted) · Oct 27, 2016

The forward leaning knife is interesting.

Are other SS owners finding that an issue for them? I can't say I have.
Is anyone concerned about the load being concentrated at the very tip of the knife like that, putting max load/leverage on the welds? I guess it could be argued that because it is presenting a slight point rather than the full leading edge of the knife, there isn't more load than a SS knife?

94BULLITT · Oct 28, 2016

Here it is going against my old splitter. The difference would be larger in harder wood.

KiwiBro (deleted) · Oct 28, 2016

Thanks for the video.

Sorry, but again, I have to say it's crazy how much productivity and ease of use is being missed with that safety switch. It's actually a bit painful to watch, like listening to fingernails down a blackboard.
Last time I'll mention it, promise.

angelo c · Oct 28, 2016

Duce said:
Does it need a taller wedge, seems to jump it? Looks nice and fast.

The lower wedge is, TO ME, a safety feature of the SS. You almost can't get a hand in the way because it IS so low.
The two handed thing is a deal breaker for me. Looks like a decent machine though.
Any chance for a pic of the underside and a vid of the log lif in action. I'd like to see how the frame carries the weight to the end of the machine corners.
When I have rounds small enough to manually lift I use the SS. When I have big stuff I roll out the TW 6.

94BULLITT · Oct 28, 2016

I made a video of the log lift the same day. I'm not sure if it turned out good, I may have to remake it.

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Philbert · Oct 28, 2016

Interesting comparison. Sounds like a bigger table on the 2-way splitter would also help.

There might also be differences working alone, or with a helper. At a charity cut we had someone loading the 'back' of a 2-way while the 'front' was splitting. Kept the wedge moving without sliding the log forward and back.

Nice to have choices.

Philbert

94BULLITT · Oct 28, 2016

angelo c said:
When I have rounds small enough to manually lift I use the SS. When I have big stuff I roll out the TW 6.

You should do a comparison between your SS and your TW6.

94BULLITT · Oct 28, 2016

Philbert said:
Interesting comparison. Sounds like a bigger table on the 2-way splitter would also help.

There might also be differences working alone, or with a helper. At a charity cut we had someone loading the 'back' of a 2-way while the 'front' was splitting. Kept the wedge moving without sliding the log forward and back.

Nice to have choices.

Philbert

A larger table on the HF splitter would give more room to lay larger rounds/ splits but also the operator would have to reach over the larger table and that would be uncomfortable.

I know both splitters are faster with 2 people. I may have to redo the test with 2 people and see how it differs.

With the HF splitter, when block of wood is split it has to be cleared out of the way. So when I moving it out of the way if it needs resplit I'll resplit it instead of laying that peice down and picking up another.

Here is a video of the HF splitter when it was a few days old.

angelo c · Oct 28, 2016

94BULLITT said:
You should do a comparison between your SS and your TW6.

not really much to compare IMO. very different tools for different conditions (wood size- amount of operators)
when I have two or more helpers the TW6 is unbeatable. when its just me and I have smaller supply. the SS is just so damn cheap to run its unbeatable. Running them both is the best of both worlds...now that's a vid I should make

problem is I can never get help here..

Hinerman · Oct 29, 2016

angelo c said:
The lower wedge is, TO ME, a safety feature of the SS. You almost can't get a hand in the way because it IS so low.
The two handed thing is a deal breaker for me. Looks like a decent machine though.
Any chance for a pic of the underside and a vid of the log lif in action. I'd like to see how the frame carries the weight to the end of the machine corners.
When I have rounds small enough to manually lift I use the SS. When I have big stuff I roll out the TW 6.

The 2 handed thing can by bypassed with one bolt,,,,,very simple to bypass I am told.

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