Hybrid Time

[Basher]

Stihl used those for a time in the early 034/044/064 saws - The thinking was that the shields would protect the bearings from debris.

It didn't end up working out that way.

Fines getting through or around the airfilter. Figured that is why my 044`s never had bearing problems, my new MS440 did, plastic bearing spacers disintegrated.

 

[mdavlee]

I'm sorry … a 10 mm slant fin red lever saw …

I have a 044 12mm case, that engine should have been left in tact.

I feel sick!

It’s just a junky old Stihl Mike. Port it and throw it in the bed of the truck and go cut wood[emoji23]

 

[Basher]

It’s just a junky old Stihl Mike. Port it and throw it in the bed of the truck and go cut wood[emoji23]

That`s just what I did with each successive new 044 but they were work saws, money making saws, not polished shelf queens.

 

[Stump Shot]

Errbody standing in front of the mirror checking...

Thanks, looking down did no good. Lol

 

[dustinwilt68]

Good running 044 or better running hybrid? Sounds like easy choice to me.

 

[mdavlee]

A 12mm 044/440 sure fuk it... but a NIB 10mm Id probably leave alone but that’s just me. They run pretty nicely. I’m interested to see how doc goes about converting it though.

I’d sell it on eBay and buy a 461 to cut wood with[emoji23]

 

[RI Chevy]

I wonder how these hybrids are for longevity? How they last with heavy usage. Or are they just a GTG saw. Occasional use saw.

 

[huskyboy]

I’d sell it on eBay and buy a 461 to cut wood with[emoji23]

You took the words outta my mouth lol

 

[huskihl]

Thanks, looking down did no good. Lol

Exactly

 

[MustangMike]

He already showed you … with the JMS tool … a belt sander!

 

[Fruecrue]

I wonder how these hybrids are for longevity? How they last with heavy usage. Or are they just a GTG saw. Occasional use saw.

They’re a Stihl Jeff.
What do you think?
Ask @Deets066

 

[huskihl]

I wonder how these hybrids are for longevity? How they last with heavy usage. Or are they just a GTG saw. Occasional use saw.

I use mine a lot. I'd think they'd be fine as long as the cylinders are clearanced and bolt holes are moved correctly

 

[MustangMike]

My point is that there was no need to destroy the 044 to build a Hybrid!

Both could run great!

 

[dustinwilt68]

Have yet to run a 044 that compares to a hybrid, my point is if going through all the work why not build the strongest saw possible? I suspect this will be Doc's strongest hybrid to date, due mostly to case volume. I get its a rare saw, but at the end of the day it's just a tool.

 

[drf256]

"He who holds the gold makes the rules"

So the guy with the open wallet chooses, and in this case, he chose this.

Not my place to tell him he is wrong. Its a cool build and will be unique.

Being a 12mm crank takes up more space in a marginally smaller crank case, I'm not sure where case volume will actually fall here.

Stihl makes one 044 case gasket, not a different one for 10 vs 12mm. How much could they really vary?

 

[MustangMike]

I know you can build a stronger saw, but they are rare, run great, and I believe they are one of the most efficient saws ever built. You can cut a heck of a lot of wood with one on a tank of fuel, and the tank is not that large.

Anyway, it is done.

Hey, if he doesn't want the crank P+C, maybe I can build it on a 12 mm case and see if the addl case capacity makes it run stronger!

 

[Deets066]

It’s just a junky old Stihl Mike. Port it and throw it in the bed of the truck and go cut wood[emoji23]

Best answer

 

[Deets066]

They’re a Stihl Jeff.
What do you think?
Ask @Deets066

Parts are parts, it’s no different than a 44 or 46. Run the piss outta em

 

[Sty57]

044 is a fine saw, but a hybrid is an awesome saw! (For a Stihl)

I agree with that too.

 

[jacob j.]

I wonder how these hybrids are for longevity? How they last with heavy usage. Or are they just a GTG saw. Occasional use saw.

I use mine a lot. I'd think they'd be fine as long as the cylinders are clearanced and bolt holes are moved correctly

I built one in 2004, used it for a while (two weeks or so) on a timber falling job, and then sold it to an AS member. He contacted me in 2016 to let me know the saw finally gave out -
he'd been getting 30-40 cords a year with it. He said it was the single greatest tool purchase he'd ever made.