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Don’t see many Sisu trucks around. Last year they sold one single truck in Norway. They do make some very ingenious and well crafted trucks, though.

Thats the brand of engine in our Massey 8270
Seems like a good one
Starts good in cold and doesn’t use lots of fuel for a 210hp front wheel assist.


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Cabovers are pretty much all you see in in Europe. The biggest problem is because the max allowed length includes the tractor. Measured from front bumper on the truck to the bumper on the back of the trailer. They don’t consider the tractor and trailer two separate units. Typical semi trailer length is 13,6 meters. Total length allowed, with the tractor, is 17 meters. That doesn’t allow for much truck in front of the trailer, unless you’re willing to get a shorter trailer and have to turn down loads.
Makes for more or less cramped cabs when it comes to living quarters. On the other hand it makes for easier getting around tight areas. Many roads and loading areas just aren’t ready for anything longer. New industrial areas can handle longer trucks, and some permits have been given for certain roads. As things are being built, I’m sure we’ll see more and more longer sets on the road. It’s all about efficiency and loads/tons carried per unit of pollution. At least here.
I have only ever driven cabovers. Grew up in a trucking company with my dad, and the last truck with a hood in front of you, that we had, was a Scania Vabis L56. That was way before I could ever drive myself. I was quite a young pup when that little truck was put out of its misery. Lol
 

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Cabovers are pretty much all you see in in Europe. The biggest problem is because the max allowed length includes the tractor. Measured from front bumper on the truck to the bumper on the back of the trailer. They don’t consider the tractor and trailer two separate units. Typical semi trailer length is 13,6 meters. Total length allowed, with the tractor, is 17 meters. That doesn’t allow for much truck in front of the trailer, unless you’re willing to get a shorter trailer and have to turn down loads.
Makes for more or less cramped cabs when it comes to living quarters. On the other hand it makes for easier getting around tight areas. Many roads and loading areas just aren’t ready for anything longer. New industrial areas can handle longer trucks, and some permits have been given for certain roads. As things are being built, I’m sure we’ll see more and more longer sets on the road. It’s all about efficiency and loads/tons carried per unit of pollution. At least here.
I have only ever driven cabovers. Grew up in a trucking company with my dad, and the last truck with a hood in front of you, that we had, was a Scania Vabis L56. That was way before I could ever drive myself. I was quite a young pup when that little truck was put out of its misery. Lol

Great post Sondre same here I’ve only driven cab overs your restrictions on length is the same as us there are a few bonneted trucks in Europe but I would say you could drive for days and see 5000 cab overs too 1 long bonneted truck
The fifth wheel on our European trucks is so far up the tractor chassis the trailer is tucked up near the cab windshields

Maximum weight for a semi and trailer 6 axles is 44 tonnes

Maximum length for a rigid truck with four axles is 40ft or 12m
Maximum weight is 32tonnes

Speed limiters on all trucks over 7.5 tonnes is 56mph or 90kph
 

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Great post Sondre same here I’ve only driven cab overs your restrictions on length is the same as us there are a few bonneted trucks in Europe but I would say you could drive for days and see 5000 cab overs too 1 long bonneted truck
The fifth wheel on our European trucks is so far up the tractor chassis the trailer is tucked up near the cab windshields

Maximum weight for a semi and trailer 6 axles is 44 tonnes

Maximum length for a rigid truck with four axles is 40ft or 12m
Maximum weight is 32tonnes

Speed limiters on all trucks over 7.5 tonnes is 56mph or 90kph

85ft is 25.5 mtrs
That all sounds familiar Andrew.

6 axles here will get you to 52 metric tons, 57 US tons, if you stretch it a little.
17 meters is just shy of 56 feet, so yes that’s pretty short.
A rigid truck with a trailer can, or at least could, be 18.5 meters or 60.7 feet. It might be down to 18 meters now.
Logging trucks usually have permits for 24 meters, or 78.7 feet, and 60 metric tons.

The weights and length on the rigid truck is the same as here.
3 axles to 26 tons, and 4 axles to 32. 12 meters max length.

I think the speed limiters here in Norway are set to 85kph now.

The 6x4 tandem configuration on tractors is gaining popularity up here now. It used to be all 6x2 with lift axles. Once traction got poor you’d lift the third axle and put all the weight on the drive. Chains weren’t needed as much, unless you were in the real mountains, and even then they only saw occasional use.
Even some of the 6x4 tandems have lift on the rear. Sisu was the first company to offer that.
 

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That all sounds familiar Andrew.

6 axles here will get you to 52 metric tons, 57 US tons, if you stretch it a little.
17 meters is just shy of 56 feet, so yes that’s pretty short.
A rigid truck with a trailer can, or at least could, be 18.5 meters or 60.7 feet. It might be down to 18 meters now.
Logging trucks usually have permits for 24 meters, or 78.7 feet, and 60 metric tons.

The weights and length on the rigid truck is the same as here.
3 axles to 26 tons, and 4 axles to 32. 12 meters max length.

I think the speed limiters here in Norway are set to 85kph now.

The 6x4 tandem configuration on tractors is gaining popularity up here now. It used to be all 6x2 with lift axles. Once traction got poor you’d lift the third axle and put all the weight on the drive. Chains weren’t needed as much, unless you were in the real mountains, and even then they only saw occasional use.
Even some of the 6x4 tandems have lift on the rear. Sisu was the first company to offer that.

Yes that’s funny you should say that the 6x4 is gaining some ground here with companies who haul most of there cargo off the motorways

When we haul Hay and straw with rigid truck extensions and close coupled trailer with low profile tyres to get the height is the only way to get the
Load on , most of the time you can push the limits by 8-10 percent with the vehicle inspectorate
 
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